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   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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In response to a post by another member, on this site who ''took exception'' to a satirical post…

First off, I'm not a hunter. But if I was hungry, I would be. And, I'll guarantee that I wouldn't want to eat meat from a diseased animal.

Second, your comment ''Killing anything should never be ''fun'' for a healthy mind.'' is right as far as it goes. If you do a little research, you will find that the majority of the 'mass shooters' were taking psychiatric drugs that have unpredictable side effects, which were prescribed for mental issues. A good place to start your research is:

https://www.wnd.com/2015/06/big-list-of-drug-induced-killers/

One example: Paxil’s known “adverse drug reactions” – according to the drug’s FDA-approved label – include 'mania,' 'insomnia,' 'anxiety,' 'agitation,' 'confusion,' 'amnesia,' 'depression,' 'paranoid reaction,' 'psychosis,' 'hostility,' 'delirium,' 'hallucinations,' 'abnormal thinking,' 'depersonalization' and 'lack of emotion,' among others.

Another:
Luvox manufacturer Solvay Pharmaceuticals concedes that during short-term controlled clinical trials, 4 percent of children and youth taking Luvox – that’s 1 in 25 – developed mania, a dangerous and violence-prone mental derangement characterized by extreme excitement and delusion.



Third, regarding “trophy hunters”. In the vast majority of cases, they have a permit issued by the legal authority in the location where they intend to hunt. If the hunter doesn’t want the meat, it is frequently donated to local charities for distribution to those in need. If it is left behind, it becomes food for other carnivores.

Aside from the workplace “grudge” shootings, shooters pick locations where there will be many people with little or no means to resist. Can you say untrained / unarmed? (How many mass shootings have occurred at a police officer’s convention or at a gun show?
06/Sep/19 7:49 AM
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I think it's important to recognize that hunting isn't always about killing. For many it is a reason, an excuse, to get out into the great outdoors, to explore, to get away from everyday pressures, to experience nature around you. It is a great opportunity to bond with friends and suitably aged family members, to work as a team, to share the experience of surviving outside the everyday environment.

It's an exercise in planning and discipline - taking adequate supplies, learning what you can and cannot do without, proper care of supplies to avoid spoilage, not wasting resources such as water, rationing so that supplies last for the trip.

As for the hunting itself, it's all about learning the habits of the animal being hunted, where and when it is most vulnerable to attack, and being in the right place at the right time to shoot or photograph or simply to observe.
02/Oct/19 2:48 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Khrushchev's Message 60 years ago
A sobering reminder.
Almost exactly sixty years ago since Russia’s Khrushchev delivered his
message to the UN; … prediction for America.

TV coverage of him banging his shoe on the podium. At that time, the word ‘communism’ was feared throughout our nation .Do you remember September 29, 1959? Now here is some food for thought if it does not make us choke! Do you remember September 29, 1959? THIS WAS HIS ENTIRE QUOTE:

'Your children's children will live under communism, You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept communism outright; but we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you will finally wake up and find you already have Communism. We will not have to fight
you; We will so weaken your economy, until you will fall like overripe fruit into our hands.' 'The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who
would not.'

Remember, socialism leads to Communism. So, how do you create a Socialistic State ? There are 8 levels of control; read the following recipe.
1) Healthcare - Control healthcare and you control the people.
2) Poverty - Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor
people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them.
3) Debt - Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control - Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare - Take control of every aspect (food, housing, income) of their lives because that will make them fully dependent on the government.
6) Education - Take control of what people read and listen to and take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion - Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools because the people need to believe in ONLY the government knowing what
is best for the people.
8) Class Warfare - Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. Eliminate the middle class. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to tax the wealthy with the support of the poor

Sounds just like the Democratic Party agenda!!!!!
12/Feb/20 1:42 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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We suffer from the attacks of a liberal, biased news media that wants to disarm us.

We suffer from the attacks of a hypocritical entertainment industry that makes billions of dollars glorifying gun violence, and then financially supports and promotes candidates who would steal our guns from us.

We suffer from the verbal abuse of third world nations demanding we disarm, who have never contributed to the freedom or greatness of mankind, but have been given the same voice and the same vote, as our nation, in the most dubious of all organizations, The United Nations.

We suffer from being lectured to by teen-age climate 'experts', know nothing actors, no talent Internet celebrities, and some of the dumbest politicians in American history.

We suffer from being told we are hated by Europeans, hated by Middle Easterners, hated by Asians, hated by Mexicans and that WE need to apologize and change.

I could go on, and on, and on...

Well, they hate us 'cause they ain't us. We have NOTHING to apologize for. NOT SORRY.

Here is a video that will make you proud to be an American. And the best is yet to come...

https://youtu.be/aDrtQlN6CkY

15/Feb/20 2:54 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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I was telling my
husband how sad it
was that students were
having to go through
this their senior year.
He replied, ''In
1964 - 70, many kids
took their senior trip to
Vietnam.'' ''At least
these kids are home.''

This does put things in
a different perspective.

Be sure & thank a vet!
26/Mar/20 3:43 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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A man, a miss,
A car, a curve.
He kissed the miss,
And missed the curve.
Burma Shave

I'm sure that Burma Shave saved some lives. People laughed and they were more careful! It was a REAL 'service' to America, even though it was an advertisement and it was one of the RARE 'really useful' ones!

To My Friends and Relatives who qualify as 'old as dirt.' For those who never saw any of the Burma Shave signs, here is a quick lesson in our history of the 1930s and '40s. Before there were interstates when everyone drove the old 2 lane roads, Burma Shave signs would be posted all over the countryside in farmers' fields. They were small red signs with white letters. Five signs, about 100 feet apart, each containing 1 line of a 4 line couplet and the obligatory 5th sign advertising Burma Shave, a popular shaving cream.

DON'T STICK YOUR ELBOW
OUT SO FAR
IT MAY GO HOME
IN ANOTHER CAR.
Burma Shave

TRAINS DON'T WANDER
ALL OVER THE MAP
'CAUSE NOBODY SITS
IN THE ENGINEER'S LAP.
Burma Shave

SHE KISSED THE HAIRBRUSH
BY MISTAKE
SHE THOUGHT IT WAS
HER HUSBAND JAKE.
Burma Shave

DON'T LOSE YOUR HEAD
TO GAIN A MINUTE
YOU NEED YOUR HEAD
YOUR BRAINS ARE IN IT.
Burma Shave

DROVE TOO LONG
DRIVER SNOOZING
WHAT HAPPENED NEXT
IS NOT AMUSING.
Burma Shave

BROTHER SPEEDER
LET'S REHEARSE
ALL TOGETHER
GOOD MORNING, NURSE
Burma Shave

CAUTIOUS RIDER
TO HER RECKLESS DEAR
LET'S HAVE LESS BULL
AND A LITTLE MORE STEER.
Burma Shave

SPEED WAS HIGH
WEATHER WAS NOT
TIRES WERE THIN
X MARKS THE SPOT.
Burma Shave

THE MIDNIGHT RIDE
OF PAUL FOR BEER
LED TO A WARMER
HEMISPHERE.
Burma Shave

AROUND THE CURVE
LICKETY-SPLIT
BEAUTIFUL CAR
WASN'T IT?
Burma Shave

NO MATTER THE PRICE
NO MATTER HOW NEW
THE BEST SAFETY DEVICE
IN THE CAR IS YOU.
Burma Shave

A GUY WHO DRIVES
A CAR WIDE OPEN
IS NOT THINKIN'
HE'S JUST HOPIN'
Burma Shave

AT INTERSECTIONS
LOOK EACH WAY
A HARP SOUNDS NICE
BUT IT'S HARD TO PLAY.
Burma Shave

BOTH HANDS ON THE WHEEL
EYES ON THE ROAD
THAT'S THE SKILLFUL
DRIVER'S CODE.
Burma Shave

THE ONE WHO DRIVES
WHEN HE'S BEEN DRINKING
DEPENDS ON YOU
TO DO HIS THINKING.
Burma Shave

CAR IN DITCH
DRIVER IN TREE
THE MOON WAS FULL
AND SO WAS HE.
Burma Shave


PASSING SCHOOL ZONE
TAKE IT SLOW
LET OUR LITTLE
SHAVERS GROW.
Burma Shave

Do these bring back any old memories? If not, you're merely a child. If they do - then you're old as dirt LIKE ME!
31/Mar/20 7:32 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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I'm DevilOrAngel and these are my thoughts and opinions. (Posted in response to a post by another member on another Sudoku page.)

Like all news commentators / pundits, some of Trevor Noah's thoughts are spot on. Others are a long way off. There is a lot of difference between 'peaceful protest' and the rioting, looting, arson and general mayhem that is occurring. I have yet to see a ''protesting'' looter with a facial expression that may be construed as grief. It's more like, Oh Boy, Free stuff!!! Come and get it...

As for the police in 'riot gear' - they have learned, through bitter experience, to expect to be pelted with rocks, bottles, etc when responding. You don't want to be subjected to tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets? Don't associate with instigators...

During my lifetime, have been privileged to meet some fine people. I've also, like most of us, met some I wouldn't cross the street for. Ethnicity has never been a determining factor, in my friendships.

End of Rant
15/Jun/20 4:26 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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You know you live in a
brainwashed society
when white people are
protesting against
white people for being
white people!
23/Jul/20 3:11 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Our country will
become a better place,
when everyone
realizes there are only
kinds of people in
it. Good People and
Bad People...
23/Jul/20 3:12 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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A re-post of the last, because I left off the last line.....

Our country will
become a better place,
when everyone
realizes there are only
kinds of people in
it. Good People and
Bad People.

Ethnicity doesn't matter...
23/Jul/20 3:29 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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We appear to have become a nation that has lost its collective mind!


� If a dude pretends to be a woman, you are required to pretend with him.

� Somehow it's Un-American for the census to count how many Americans are in America.

� Russians influencing our elections are bad, but illegal Mexicans voting in our elections are good.

� Twenty is too young to drink a beer, but eighteen is old enough to vote.

� People who have never owned slaves should pay slavery reparations to people who have never been slaves.

� Inflammatory rhetoric is outrageous, but harassing conservative people in restaurants is virtuous.

� People who have never been to college should pay the debts of college students who took out huge loans for useless degrees.

� Immigrants with tuberculosis and polio are welcome, but you'd better be able to prove your dog is vaccinated.

� Irish doctors and German engineers who want to immigrate must go through a rigorous vetting process, but any illiterate Central-American gang-banger who jumps the southern fence is welcome.

� $5 billion for border security is too expensive, but $1.5 trillion for 'free' health care is not.

� If you cheat to get into college you go to prison, but if you cheat to get into the country you go to college for free.

� People who say there is no such thing as gender are demanding a female President.

� We see other countries going Socialist and collapsing, and it seems like a great plan to some of us.

� Some people are held responsible for things that happened before they were born, and other people are not held responsible for what they are doing right now.

� Criminals are catch-and-released to hurt more people, but stopping them is bad because it's a violation of THEIR rights.

� And pointing out all this hypocrisy somehow makes us 'racists'?!

NOTE: This post was made with 100% recycled electrons. No electrons were harmed, No trees were destroyed, No animals were killed, and No political correctness was observed in posting this comment...
04/Aug/20 3:04 PM
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Chicago's mayor Lightfoot says her city's violence problem arises from guns coming in from neighboring states which don't have strict gun control.

Why don't those neighboring areas have Chicago's murder and violence problem?

04/Aug/20 3:05 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Nothing says ''unity like playing a separate National Anthem for black people and white people at NFL games...
04/Aug/20 3:05 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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This piece is a good one for those that are currently going along with what's happening in the world today and believing what the media dishes up to us all.

Yes! I agree with this essay below.
What we are seeing in the media is an altered reality and selective coverage... and, in the case of Trump coverage, outright lies and misquotes that are repeated enough that most of the listening public has begun to believe it.
Yes, it is gaslighting. Yes, the media is telling you stories that are incorrect, with out of context quotes and often complete lies.
Yes, you are being told that massive injustices are being done while riots, looting and murders are being ignored. Yes there are horrible injustices being done to police officers involved in tragic deaths with violent, armed criminals.
Yes, you are not crazy.


Have you ever asked yourself, ‘am I crazy?’ If you have ever asked yourself that, you’re not crazy. You’re most likely being gaslighted. Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse aimed at controlling a person by altering reality to the point where the person will doubt their own sanity.

The term “gaslighting” comes from a 1930’s play called Gas Light. The main character in the play literally tries to drive his wife crazy by gradually dimming the gas-powered lights in their home. When she notices the lights dimming, her husband not only denies that the lights are dimming, he convinces her that she is imagining it to the point where she questions her own sanity.

We are living in a perpetual state of gaslighting. The reality that we are being told by the media is at complete odds with what we are seeing with our own two eyes. And when we question the false reality that we are being presented, or we claim that what we see is that actual reality, we are vilified as racist or bigots or just plain crazy. You’re not racist. You’re not crazy. You’re being gaslighted.

New York State has twice as many deaths from Covid-19 than any other state, and New York has accounted for one fifth of all Covid-19 deaths, but we are told that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has handled the pandemic better than any other governor. But if we support policies of Governors whose states had only a fraction of the infections and deaths as New York, we’re called anti-science and want people to die. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

We see mobs of people looting stores, smashing windows, setting cars on fire and burning down buildings, but we are told that these demonstrations are peaceful protests. And when we call this destruction of our cities, riots, we are called racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
09/Sep/20 3:00 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Pt 2 / 3

We see the major problem destroying many inner-cities is crime; murder, gang violence, drug dealing, drive-by shootings, armed robbery, but we are told that it is not crime, but the police that are the problem in the inner-cities. We are told we must defund the police and remove law enforcement from crime-riddled cities to make them safer. But if we advocate for more policing in cities overrun by crime, we are accused of being white supremacists and racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

The United States of America accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. The vast majority of the immigrants are “people of color”, and these immigrants are enjoying freedom and economic opportunity not available to them in their country of origin, but we are told that the United States is the most racist and oppressive country on the planet, and if we disagree, we are called racist and xenophobic. If we allow everyone who wants to come to the US to enter without controlling the population of immigrants, our country would go bankrupt attempting to provide healthcare and education for the multitudes of asylum seekers world-wide. Higher crime rates from allowing ANYONE TO ENTER…. well, we already have dramatic and very sad proof of that correlation. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Capitalist countries are the most prosperous countries in the world The standard of living is the highest in capitalist countries. We see more poor people move up the economic ladder to the middle and even the wealthy class through their effort and ability in capitalist countries than any other economic system in the world, but we are told capitalism is an oppressive system designed to keep people down. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Communist countries killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Communist countries strip their citizens of basic human rights, dictate every aspect of their lives, treat their citizens like slaves, and drive their economies into the ground, but we are told that Communism is the fairest, most equitable, freest and most prosperous economic system in the world. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.
09/Sep/20 3:01 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Pt 3 / 3

The most egregious example of gaslighting is the concept of “white fragility”. You spend your life trying to be a good person, trying to treat people fairly and with respect. You disavow racism and bigotry in all its forms. You judge people solely on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. You don’t discriminate based on race or ethnicity. But you are told you are a racist, not because of something you did or said, but solely because of the color of your skin. You know instinctively that charging someone with racism because of their skin color is itself racist. You know that you are not racist, so you defend yourself and your character, but you are told that your defense of yourself is proof of your racism. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Gaslighting has become one of the most pervasive and destructive tactics in American politics. It is the exact opposite of what our political system was meant to be. It deals in lies and psychological coercion, and not the truth and intellectual discourse. If you ever ask yourself if you’re crazy, you are not. Crazy people aren’t sane enough to ask themselves if they’re crazy. So, trust yourself, believe what’s in your heart. Trust your eyes over what you are told. Never listen to the people who tell you that you are crazy, because you are not, you’re being gaslighted.
09/Sep/20 3:01 AM
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This from a friend: Not sure all of this is true, just at least 90%. The flag presented is particularly disgusting to me. I served 23 years in the US army in order to get my flag. That black man should have never died the way he did. My understanding is the autopsy showed he had enough fentanyl in his body to kill him. Should have just let it happen!!

This makes me sick.... “I watched the Democratic leaders of Congress kneel in the halls of Congress for about 9 minutes, for the death of a black man named George Floyd.

I have never seen them kneel for a fallen Police Officer.

I have never seen them kneel for a fallen Soldier.

I NEVER SAW THEM KNEEL FOR THE SOLDIERS THAT HILLARY AND OBAMA LEFT TO DIE IN Benghazi!!

I have never seen them kneel for the thousands of (black and white) babies aborted EVERY DAY.

I have never seen them kneel for a murdered white man or woman.

I have not seen them kneel for the thousands of black-on-black murder victims.

I have not seen them kneel for the thousands of elderly people that died in nursing homes due to the Corona Virus.

I have to ask: WHY are Democrats putting the life of George Floyd as more valuable than the lives of everyone else?

In fact, Democrats have put so much value on the life of George Floyd, they have allowed rioting, looting, arson, murder, and mayhem in communities Nationwide...

ASK YOURSELF - WHY NOW?'
The family (brothers and sister) of George Floyd opened a Go Fund Me account to 'help the family'? It has already raised $14,455,100.00 and still counting from donations as of June 22, 2020. Yes, almost $14 1/2 MILLION. This is for a guy who was arrested NINE times; was a convicted drug dealer (and at a drug deal the day he died); held a gun to the stomach of a pregnant lady while his five buddies robbed her home; did prison time three different times totaling about eight years, and obviously didn't learn from our penal system. And America is memorializing him by painting murals of the guy on the sides of buildings like he's a hero? Unbelievable!! You got to be kidding me. Crime does pay!
.....and to pour salt in the wound, Pelosi presented his brother a folded American flag flown over the Capitol in his honor in a beautiful tri-cornered presentation case.
20/Sep/20 8:42 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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If even one bullet had gone off during a second amendment protest, our politicians would be trying to Ram gun control thru at a record Pace. But when rioters burn our cities to the ground, government gets on its knees. Never forget.
01/Oct/20 3:39 AM
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That moment when someone says, 'I can't believe you would vote for Trump.'

I simply reply 'I'm not voting for Trump.'

I'm voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech.
I'm voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.

I'm voting for the next Supreme Court Justice to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I'm voting for the continued growth of my retirement 401K and the stock market.

I'm voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end to America's involvement in foreign conflicts.

I'm voting for the Electoral College & the Republic in which we live.

I'm voting for the police to be respected and to ensure law & order.

I'm voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I'm voting for our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over again to China, Mexico, and other foreign countries.

I'm voting for secure borders and legal immigration.

I'm voting for the military & the veterans who fought for this country who gave the American people their freedoms.

I'm voting for the unborn babies who have a right to live.

I'm voting for continued peace progress in the Middle East and in support of Israel.

I'm voting to fight against human/child trafficking.

I'm voting for Freedom of Religion.

I'm voting for the American Flag that is disrespected by the Democratic Party.

I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion & not be censored.

I'm not just voting for one person, I'm voting for the future of my country.

I'm voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms and their future.

What are you voting for?

14/Oct/20 12:43 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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We've seen these numbers before; just a reminder of what's at stake in the coming election.

These numbers help explain why these last eight years prior to DJ Trump were disastrous for the USA. I read the last item and then looked at Trump's Cabinet. No wonder Washington, DC is in turmoil. Trump's picks are bosses who expect their employees to work. These are Eye Opening Numbers. This is what bothers a lot of people about Trump. He won't accept a can't do attitude, or inexperienced, incompetent performance. He will get results; it just might not be smooth or pretty.


Here are some amazing stats: Make sure you read to the bottom. An eye-opener!



1. These 10 States now have more people on welfare than they employ!



California
New Mexico
Mississippi
Alabama
Illinois
Kentucky
Ohio
New York
Maine
South Carolina



2. Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2012, between food stamps, housing support, childcare, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. Household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the average household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for 40 hour week, while the average job pays $24.00 an hour.
18/Oct/20 3:25 AM
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3. Check the last set of statistics!!



The percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet. You know what the private business sector is: A real-life business not a government job.



Here are the percentages:



38% T. Roosevelt40% Taft
52% Wilson
49% Harding
48% Coolidge
42% Hoover
50% F. D. Roosevelt
50% Truman
57% Eisenhower
30% Kennedy
47% Johnson
53% Nixon
42% Ford
32% Carter
56% Reagan
51% GH Bush
39% Clinton
55% GW Bush
8% Obama
90% Trump



This helps explain the bias, if not the incompetence, of the last OBAMA administration: ONLY 8% of them had ever worked in private business!



That's right! Only eight percent - the least, by far of the last 19 presidents! And these people tried to tell our corporations how to run their businesses?



How could Obama, president of a major nation and society, the one with the most successful economic system in world history, stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one?? Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And, when it's the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers? They spent most of their time in academia, government, and/or non-profit jobs or as 'community organizers.'



I hope you are including Trump in your daily prayers, because if he fails to be President for the next five years, America may never be the same again at any time in the future


You might want to pass this on, because we'll NEVER see these facts in the mainstream media, or from the alphabet networks
18/Oct/20 3:26 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Alas, Abraham Lincoln is not on the ballot this year. Two flawed men present themselves for our inspection. Biden may promise “hope and light and love,” but that is merely the accepted euphemism for greatly expanded federal powers to reshape everything from the energy sector to girls’ locker rooms. The distractions of personality foibles, Twitter wars, and misadventures in assertions of truth aside, the crux of this election is that we are confronted as usual with one party that says, “Let’s get to work reshaping everything in the United States” and another party that says, “Let’s not.”
27/Oct/20 6:11 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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For the Biden / Harris fans - here is a little ''background'' on Kamala Harris.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fXDHW1de3cA?autoplay=1&autohide=1
28/Oct/20 12:45 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Those in the U.S., who have not yet voted, might want to consider this:

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/10/06/dennis-prager-to-all-those-who-vote-for-the-man-not -the-party-981297

There will probably be a space to remove......

Ah well, the election will be over soon. Thank goodness..........
30/Oct/20 2:13 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Today, I re-read some of the posts on page one. Interesting and enlightening.
30/Oct/20 2:14 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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WARNING - POLITICALLY INSENSITIVE.

But if you are interested in U.S. politics, you may want to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/q_4n_MmNdxA?autoplay=1&autohide=1
31/Oct/20 3:37 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Republicans will not be lectured into calls for 'unity' by the same media outlets and Democrats that have spewed never-ending, nonstop psychotic rage and hatred for four years.
'We, the American people, deserve better,' 'It is a national disgrace how some states have handled this election. The double standard we are watching with the mob and the media is beyond disgusting, repulsive, sickening, and sad. The media, over the weekend, echoed Joe Biden's call for civility, urging citizens to 'accept' the results and band together as the country begins to 'heal.'
That's the same mob and the media that spewed never-ending, nonstop psychotic rage and hatred for four years and lied to all of you about so-called Trump-Russia collusion, The media mob and the Democrats harassed this president, harassed us his supporters for four straight years with lies and conspiracy theories always questioning the legitimacy of this presidency. The media have been exposed as a bunch of hypocrites with their empty calls for civility and unity pretending like none of that ever happened.
They never accepted the election results in 2016 but in seconds, Joe Biden won, let's tell the world,
The media can try as they might, but Trump supporters are not going to be lectured by the same media frauds and Democrats, the ones that called us chumps, irredeemable, deplorable, sexist, racist, smelly Walmart shoppers.
We cling to our God, our guns, our Constitution, our religion, and bibles, while they have been fueling a blind rage every second, every hour, of every day.
The nay-sayers should take off their “rose colored glasses. Barring that, maybe, as the media suggests, they should gather together and sing “Kumbaya”.


13/Nov/20 4:15 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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'God grant
me the
courage
not to give
up what I
think is
right even
though I
think it is
hopeless.'
~Admiral Chester W. Nimitz~
13/Nov/20 4:16 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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CLASSIC LAYOFF LETTER

Dear Employees:

As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that Joe Biden is our President and that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way. To compensate for these increases, our prices would have to increase by about 10%.

But, since we cannot increase our prices right now due to the dismal state of the economy, we will have to lay off sixty of our employees instead. This has really been bothering me since I believe we are family here and I didn't know how to choose who would have to go.

So, this is what I did. I walked through our parking lots and found sixty 'Biden Harris' bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these folks will be the ones to let go. I can't think of a more, fair way to approach this problem. They voted for change......I gave it to them.

I will see the rest of you at the annual company picnic.
26/Nov/20 7:10 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Curtis & Leroy saw an ad in the Hearald-Citizen in Cookeville, TN. and bought a mule for $100. The farmer agreed to deliver the mule the next day.The next morning the farmer drove up and said, 'Sorry, fellows, I have some bad news, the mule died last night .'Curtis & Leroy replied, 'Well, then just give us our money back.'The farmer said, 'Can't do that. I went and spent it already.'They said, 'OK then, just bring us the dead mule.'The farmer asked, 'What in the world ya'll gonna do with a dead mule?'Curtis said, 'We gonna raffle him off.'The farmer said, 'You can't raffle off a dead mule!'Leroy said, 'We shore can! Heck, we don't hafta tell nobody he's dead!'A couple of weeks later, the farmer ran into Curtis & Leroy at the IGA grocery store and asked. “What'd you fellers ever do with that dead mule?”They said, 'We raffled him off like we said we wuz gonna do.' Leroy said, 'Shucks, we sold 1000 tickets fer two dollars apiece and made a profit of $1998.00 The farmer said, 'My Lord, didn't anyone complain?'Curtis said, 'Well, the feller who won got upset. So we gave him his two dollars back.'

Curtis and Leroy now work for the government. They're overseeing the Vote Count, Bailout & Stimulus Programs.

Limit all U.S. politicians to two Terms:- One in office- One in prison...
29/Dec/20 9:21 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Through their inaction and quasi support, in the last year or so, democratic run cities have led protesters, looters and rioters to believe that there are no consequences for their behavior…
14/Jan/21 6:18 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Let us all be: a “United States” again, message from Joe Biden.

WHY SHOULD THAT BE AN ISSUE WITH ME ?

For the last 4+ years, the Democrats have gone scorched earth.

You have salted the fields and now you want to grow crops.

The problem is we have memories longer than a hamster.

We remember the protests the day of/after inauguration.

We remember the 4 years of personal attacks and endless name calling

We remember “not our president” and the “Resistance…”

We remember being called racist and evil.

We remember Maxie Walters telling followers to harass Trump supporters in department stores and gas stations.

We remember the Presidents press secretary being chased out of a restaurant.

We remember hundreds of Trump supporters being physically attacked.

We remember Trump supporters getting Doxed, and fired from jobs.

We remember riots, and looting.
17/Jan/21 5:22 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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We remember “a comedian” holding up the President’s severed head.

We remember a play in Central park paid with public funding, showing the killing of President Trump.

We remember Robert de Niro yelling “_-_-Trump” at the Tony’s and getting a standing ovation.

We remember Trump being accused of being a Russian spy and the media going with it. Trying to frame him for treason.

We remember Nancy Pelosi tearing up the State of the Union Address.

We remember how totally in the tank the mainstream media was in opposition.

We remember non-stop in your face lies and open cover-ups from the media.

We remember the MSM cabal in 24/7 Hate Trump broadcasts.

We remember the press not holding Democrats responsible for anything and hiding anything negative.

We remember conservative voices neutered by Tech companies (Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc.).

We remember the partisan impeachment.

We remember the President and his staff being spied on; even before he was President and Obama & Biden knew of it.
17/Jan/21 5:23 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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We remember Republican congressmen shot on a ball field by a Socialist supporter of Bernie Sanders.

We remember every so-called comedy show turn into nothing but Trump hate fest.

We remember 95% negative coverage in the news from the mainstream media and newspapers.

We remember the state governors asking for and getting everything they wanted to address COVID-19 then blaming Trump.

We remember leftists threatening outside the homes of prominent Republicans and TV commentators who support Trump.

We remember the attempted vile attempted destruction of Brett Kavanaugh by Democrats, Kamala Harris in particular.

We remember people pounding on the Supreme Court doors.

We remember that we were called every name in the book for supporting President Trump.

We remember that many in Hollywood said they would leave after Trump was elected, but they stayed here anyway.

We remember the hundreds of taxpayer funded police cars burnt during your ‘mostly peaceful’ demonstrations.

We remember our conservative voices being cancelled on major US campuses.

This list is endless, but you get the idea.

My friends will be my friends, but a party that has been attacking the President for 4 long years does not get a free pass with me.

So Joe, take your, 'Let’s be United' and shove it .

17/Jan/21 5:24 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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PERSPECTIVE

ALICE IN WONDERLAND HAS BECOME THE NORM.
IS THE AMERICA THAT WE KNOW DOOMED TO HIT THE THIRD WORLD DUNG HEAP IN THIS GENERATION OR THE NEXT?


THIS MORNING, I REALIZED THAT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT TO CHANGE. NO MATTER HOW I VOTE, NO MATTER WHAT I SAY, SOMETHING CONTRARY TO MY BELIEF HAS INVADED OUR NATION, AND OUR LIVES ARE NEVER GOING TO BE THE SAME. I LOOK AT PEOPLE I HAVE KNOWN ALL MY LIFE— SO HATE-FILLED THAT THEY AGREE WITH OPINIONS THEY WOULD NEVER EXPRESS AS THEIR OWN. I THINK THAT I MAY WELL HAVE ENTERED THE TWILIGHT ZONE. YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY THIS INSANITY. WE HAVE BECOME A NATION THAT HAS LOST ITS COLLECTIVE MIND! WE SEE OTHER COUNTRIES GOING SOCIALIST AND COLLAPSING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT PLAN TO US.

UNIVERSITIES THAT ADVOCATE EQUALITY, DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ASIAN-AMERICANS IN FAVOR OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS. SOME PEOPLE ARE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THINGS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THEY WERE BORN, AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

CRIMINALS ARE CAUGHT-AND-RELEASED TO HURT MORE PEOPLE, BUT STOPPING THEM IS BAD BECAUSE IT'S A VIOLATION OF THEIR RIGHTS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER OWNED SLAVES SHOULD PAY SLAVERY REPARATIONS TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN SLAVES. PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN TO COLLEGE SHOULD PAY THE DEBTS OF COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO TOOK OUT HUGE LOANS FOR THEIR DEGREES. $5 BILLION FOR BORDER SECURITY IS TOO EXPENSIVE, BUT $1.5 TRILLION FOR “FREE” HEALTH CARE IS NOT.

IF YOU CHEAT TO GET INTO COLLEGE YOU GO TO PRISON, BUT IF YOU CHEAT TO GET INTO THE COUNTRY YOU GO TO COLLEGE FOR FREE. AND, POINTING OUT ALL THIS HYPOCRISY SOMEHOW MAKES US 'RACISTS'?! NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANYMORE, NO VALUES, NO MORALS, NO CIVILITY AND PEOPLE ARE DYING OF A CHINESE VIRUS, BUT IT’S RACIST TO REFER TO IT AS CHINESE EVEN THOUGH IT BEGAN IN CHINA.

WE ARE CLEARLY LIVING IN AN UPSIDE DOWN WORLD WHERE RIGHT IS WRONG AND WRONG IS RIGHT, WHERE MORAL IS IMMORAL AND IMMORAL IS MORAL, WHERE GOOD IS EVIL AND EVIL IS GOOD, WHERE KILLING MURDERERS IS WRONG, BUT KILLING INNOCENT BABIES IS RIGHT.

WAKE UP AMERICA, THE GREAT UNSINKABLE SHIP, TITANIC AMERICA, HAS HIT AN ICEBERG, IS TAKING ON WATER, AND IS SINKING FAST.

PRAY!
21/Jan/21 3:16 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Joe Biden lied. He lied about wanting to bring the country together. He lied about trying to work 'across the aisle.' He lied about being a 'moderate.'
It took only 10 days to expose President Biden for the fraud that he is. That’s a good thing.
After the blitzkrieg rollout of 40 executive orders that targeted President Trump programs, kowtowed to progressives (and enraged conservatives) on hot-button issues like taxpayer funding of abortion and showed Biden’s disdain for our country’s system of checks and balances, Republicans have zero excuse for cooperating with the new administration.
Even as Biden pretends to want Republican cooperation, his flurry of executive orders suggests he’s not only determined to alienate those 74 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump, but he’s in a rush to do so.
Why? Does Biden think that his victory in November delivered a mandate so pronounced that he can govern as he pleases? Has he interpreted his win as validation of the policies he’s rolling out so furiously?
DOES HE NOT REMEMBER POLLING THAT SHOWED ALMOST HALF OF BIDEN’S VOTERS WERE VOTING AGAINST DONALD TRUMP RATHER THAN FOR JOE BIDEN?
~Liz Peek~
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-first-10-days-moderate-unity-liz-peek
04/Feb/21 3:56 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Remember, during the debates, when Biden said Executive Orders were the sign of 'A Dictator'?

Executive Orders issued in the First Three Days in Office:

Biden - - 19
Trump - - 1
Obama - 5
Bush - - - 0
Clinton - 1
04/Feb/21 6:57 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Do all
fairy tales
begin with
'Once upon
a time?


NO, Some
begin with
'If I Get
Elected....'
09/Feb/21 4:08 PM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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If you think guns are a problem in the U.S. You should watch this. If, on the other hand, you do not believe guns are a problem then you should watch this.


It’s that good and, only 6 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/pELwCqz2JfE?rel=0&autoplay=true
10/Mar/21 6:28 AM
   DevilOrAngel  From Somewhere
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Chicago is Gun Free.
Over 1550 shot
already this year.

Maine can carry
concealed firearms
without a permit.

4 years later,
Maine is the safest
state in the union!

Tell me again how
gun control works!!!
13/Mar/21 6:58 AM
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